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Eduardo Quintana's avatar

Hands off rallies include hands off war-mongering NATO but exclude the horrific genocide being carried out by US taxpayers against Palestine. Is the DNC organizing this protest?

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Yes, they are. Most local groups are being led by "Indivisible" which is a DNC front group. So that's why there's no mention of Palestine and the genocide being committed there with US help.

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Quentin Brimley's avatar

And that is why Kam lost.

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Eduardo Quintana's avatar

The DNC will never admit that their complicity with genocide is the reason they lost the last election and the reason they’re gonna lose the next election. They don’t mind missing a turn or two at the feeding trough.

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Quentin Brimley's avatar

Eduardo you nailed it. The Zionist lust cost them and they will never admit it.

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Sarah May Grunwald's avatar

Yep.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

Nancy Pelosi was a speaker at a Hands Off protest in Scranton, PA this weekend. That pretty much clinches that this is another DNC-sponsored rally such as the Bernie/AOC ones.

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Sarah May Grunwald's avatar

The sooner liberals lift the veil and see that Democrats serve the same corporate and Israeli overlords as Republicans the better off we will be. They don't serve us. I am so bored with the Trump derangement syndrome, as if these issue didn't exist under Democrat leadership. BIden-Harris funded and supported a genocide for 15 months and none of these TDS liberals gave a shit.

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auxunauxia's avatar

There’s conflict of interest built into the political platforming of speech.

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Karl's avatar

Agree with all points except your constant accusation against Russia as the aggressor. It is like accusing a rescuer who stopped a rape as being guilt of using violence. Ukraine was systematically violently „raping“ ethnic Russians since at least 2014 and killed 14 - 16 thousand. (One could make the argument that the West planned to destroy Russia already in the time of Gorbachev and certainly when Yeltsin came to power and various US politicians bragged about America being the only leader of the world. Plans were made to divide the former Soviet Union into small entities for easier control by western economic and political interests). Ukraine was in the fall of 2021 massing tens of thousands of troops against the people of Donbass and Luhansk; shelling into the provinces had increased before Russia invaded with a relatively small force. I have been a real pacifist for more than seventy years and hate war anywhere. This conflict was started by the West and using the term provoked is avoiding to name the real culprits or guilty party. I expect fairness in serious discussions especially from those I agree with.

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Slightly Lucid's avatar

it’s notable what protests are permitted to be organized and advertised on Facebook versus the ones we need to hear about from our friends. This is a sanctioned, astroturf protest.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

"NATO is openly and aggressively pressuring its member nations to move money from healthcare, retirement funds, and clean energy to weapons and militarism. "

This and for so many more reasons NATO doesn't need to be "supported" in any way, shape or form. But then if you look at the list there's no "Hands off Gaza" in that list, either. This horrible omission makes sense when you realize who the sponsor of these Hands Off Rallies is--the DNC under the auspices of Indivisible and other front groups. The Dems are great supporters of genocide in Gaza and proxy war in Ukraine obviously. It's what Biden and Harris were all for, after all.

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auxunauxia's avatar

The priority seems to be military profiteering and advancing science the way the Nazis during WWII were purportedly doing (using humans as involuntary experimental subjects). There are a lot of rules supposedly in place to prevent things from de-escalating badly. But I suppose at a certain level of the game those rules just do not seem to apply to folks sitting on proverbial thrones. Unless the system itself crashes… or entire humanity ascends after the chaos is over.

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Shafia's avatar

You have to be living with no political analysis to think NATO is a source of peace in the world. Unfortunately that is the case for most Americans

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Gladwyn d'Souza's avatar

Right on, forgets billions, focus on trillions evaporating humanity in phosphorus and depleted uranium targeting drinking water by the defense budget, “at the bidding of President Trump, NATO is openly and aggressively pressuring its member nations to move money from healthcare, retirement funds, and clean energy to weapons and militarism.”

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Doro Reeves's avatar

The U.S. and its European bootlickers! Screw NATO.

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Scott C. Dunn's avatar

Looks like a really handy and deceptive way to co-opt progressive movements.

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Rich Wood's avatar

Because Putin is a fascist who attacks Ukraine mercilessly?

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Robyn Morrison's avatar

Why do progressives feel it is necessary to attack other progressives who are out in the streets protesting this regime?

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Corenna's avatar

I don’t think anyone would be “attacking” any movement that wasn’t completely hypocritical, I have an issue with people who think it’s only okay to protest when Trump is in office but, not when Democrats are funding genocide and enabling Republicans to drive the country off a cliff. It’s those same people praising Booker as a “hero for democracy” for doing empty performances, when he takes lots of money from AIPAC then votes to give Israel more military funding to ethnically cleanse Palestine, just days later.

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Sarah May Grunwald's avatar

Genocide isn't progressive.

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Corenna's avatar

100%

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Dodo B Bird's avatar

I agree with everything you said. Rarely can I say that. Mr. Dodo B Bird. American Dissident Artist.

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Penelope Prill's avatar

PERFECT POST

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Robert M. Ford's avatar

If you’re showing up today—or even just thinking about what it means to—this might resonate. I wrote about the protests, the fear, the resolve, and the quiet turning of despair into something else.

This Is What Hope Looks Like → https://www.brittleviews.com/p/this-is-what-hope-looks-like

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Laura Gentle's avatar

We’re in open and rapidly progressing fascism, we are not going to split hairs over who gets these bodies off the internet and into every major city of the country. I love CodePink, I adore you and have followed you since the Bush years, always will. This ain’t the approach you want to keep taking. Don’t purity this one.

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Lizzy Liberty's avatar

I agree that at times, Leftist groups do fall prey to purity politics but I think the floor for being able to call yourself a leftist is to have a consistently anti-imperialist approach, don't you?

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Laura Gentle's avatar

As leftists, absolutely, but we don’t need everyone at mass protests to be leftists, that’s the mobilizing post organizing part. Seasoned activists know we rarely agree with every aspect of a mass event, and what we need right now are Americans in the streets together. It’ll be difficult to protest NATO if half of us are starving.

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